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Dzjudz · Apr 18, 2011, 01:44 PM // 13:44

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Originally Posted by wotah

Might add I went afk for 15 minutes to eat chicken.^ My screenshot of 3 skilling VQ mq

Well that doesn't really matter since there's no /age on the screen anyway

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aga · Apr 18, 2011, 10:35 PM // 22:35

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Originally Posted by wotah

I get a trophy now?

You still have a MM and SoS, which is all you need for a vanquish like MQ. You can tell by your 2 monk heroes energy that there was little to no damage to your heroes, everything was just being soaked up by minions. Not forgetting your Bsurge hero...

Take out your nec, rit and ele, replace them with a sin, derv and warrior

mage767 · Apr 19, 2011, 01:35 AM // 01:35

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Originally Posted by aga

You still have a MM and SoS, which is all you need for a vanquish like MQ. You can tell by your 2 monk heroes energy that there was little to no damage to your heroes, everything was just being soaked up by minions. Not forgetting your Bsurge hero...

Take out your nec, rit and ele, replace them with a sin, derv and warrior

I find this screenshot funny. Codex in pve.

Plutoman · Apr 19, 2011, 02:09 AM // 02:09

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Originally Posted by aga

Take out your nec, rit and ele, replace them with a sin, derv and warrior

I do believe the point of the thread may still stand..

Kunder · Apr 19, 2011, 02:57 AM // 02:57

Only managed NM, sadly. HM is probably doable with cons, which means this build is sufficiently powerful for most players.

MusicMan9317 · Apr 24, 2011, 08:12 PM // 20:12

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Originally Posted by Yinsang

You did not read his post, did you?

...did you read his?

thedarkmarine · Apr 25, 2011, 05:40 PM // 17:40

omg omg!

news flash! news flash!

necessity does not imply sufficiency!

coming up: if the ground is wet, does it mean it's raining?! the answer may surprise you! more at 11.

Califorun · Apr 25, 2011, 06:51 PM // 18:51

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Originally Posted by thedarkmarine

omg omg!

news flash! news flash!

necessity does not imply sufficiency!

coming up: if the ground is wet, does it mean it's raining?! the answer may surprise you! more at 11.

Quoted for truth. =)

Also - I always felt that optimizing our heroes was more for efficiency than for mere completion(with the exception of certain end-game content) so that we can VQ and what have you easier and faster... just because you can VQ an area doesn't mean you shouldn't try to improve upon your speed and effectiveness.

hunter · Apr 25, 2011, 06:52 PM // 18:52

From now on the standard for build efficiency should be successful completion of DoA nm

fair?

edit: and due to time constraints, lets make it this way:

Successful completion of "To the rescue" (cave)
Successful completion of foundry
Successful completion of City in ~20-25 min

aga · Apr 25, 2011, 08:39 PM // 20:39

No .

hunter · Apr 26, 2011, 11:33 PM // 23:33

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Originally Posted by aga

No .

Thank you dear sir for such elaborate and well thought out answer

...anyone else?

lightzors · Apr 27, 2011, 11:19 AM // 11:19

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Originally Posted by hunter

Thank you dear sir for such elaborate and well thought out answer

...anyone else?

No because DoA doesn't equal general pve. Usually you need a bit different aproach for it.

Plutoman · Apr 27, 2011, 03:06 PM // 15:06

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Originally Posted by Califorun

Quoted for truth. =)

Also - I always felt that optimizing our heroes was more for efficiency than for mere completion(with the exception of certain end-game content) so that we can VQ and what have you easier and faster... just because you can VQ an area doesn't mean you shouldn't try to improve upon your speed and effectiveness.

This thread was an argument against the people who claim their own build is good because it has done several VQ's easily.

hunter · Apr 27, 2011, 05:50 PM // 17:50

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Originally Posted by lightzors

No because DoA doesn't equal general pve. Usually you need a bit different aproach for it.

So vanquishing and HM missions are meaningless
But so is DoA nm

SO wtf is meaningful to you?

Killing nm raptors outside rata sum?

Plutoman · Apr 28, 2011, 01:56 AM // 01:56

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Originally Posted by hunter

So vanquishing and HM missions are meaningless
But so is DoA nm

SO wtf is meaningful to you?

Killing nm raptors outside rata sum?

This is where the argument for efficiency of builds come in; the thread was for the reason I listed above yours.

DoA doesn't test the efficiency of a build - you don't need the same elements in the DoA that you need in a normal VQ.

byteme! · Apr 28, 2011, 02:06 AM // 02:06

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Originally Posted by hunter

So vanquishing and HM missions are meaningless
But so is DoA nm

SO wtf is meaningful to you?

Killing nm raptors outside rata sum?

You summed it up pretty good there mate. This is another one of those topics that ain't going nowhere because no one can agree on a clear cut answer. We're all trying to shoot each other down in hopes that after all the mess is cleared up we're the last one left standing. I'm right and you're wrong. If you attempt to disprove me I have an army full of semantics, theorycrafts and an uncanny ability to twist the english language around in my favor.